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Penguins Trades Stymied; a Slow Rebuild & Dubas’s New Choice

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Pittsburgh Penguins general manager Kyle Dubas

For those waiting or expecting the big trade, or at least one of the shoes to drop on the Pittsburgh Penguins’ dismantling to make room for the next era, the draft weekend provided rays of hope for the future and time spent waiting … and waiting for nothing in the present.

Penguins general manager Kyle Dubas was shut out, except for swapping draft picks upward and down.

No, the waiting was not sitting through the hours long the poorly executed draft broadcast with such wonderfully awkward moments as 1990s band The Goo Goo Dolls following 6-foot-6 defenseman Radim Mrtka into what we could only describe as a giant sci-fi reprogramming chamber where he and all of the new draftees video conferenced with their new teams moments after selection. The GMs and scouts sat at unadorned tables, blankly staring back like nonplussed American Idol judges about to deliver bad news.

Oh, the draft broadcast was, umm, interesting and short on several things that the Canadian broadcasts had, but fans have already savaged the Gumpish broadcast enough.

No, the Penguins, who led the league in draft picks and openly questioned if they could use them all, took a different strategy than expected. They used all of their picks and added more, 13 in total, including three first-rounders.

Unfortunately, two of the Penguins’ first-round picks were taken well over their projected slots, which has temporarily steered the conversation toward the immediate rather than the big picture.

Where do the Penguins go from here?

“We know what people say about the prospect pool and the (2025) class and how long of a road people think it’s going to be. But we are (in the office) and every ounce of our focus is about getting the team back to contention as urgently as possible,” Dubas said Friday night. “So I know that can at times be confusing. But we don’t sit down and say it’s going to be X amount of years. (It is) what can we do to help bring the team back to contention as quickly as possible, and then execute and try and get us there.”

After the dust has settled on the draft, there is some sunshine shining toward the horizon of the future, but there remains the same murkly light on the present.

None of the three first-round picks appear ready to leap to the NHL. However, 22nd overall pick Bill Zonnon is a 6-foot-2 physical horse of a scoring center who might just be able to overpower his way into the league in a lesser role if a few opportunities exist.

So, neither Friday nor Saturday brought immediate aid to building the next chapter or tearing down the current one.

Instead, the prospects selected are probably two to three years out, some longer if ever, and the Penguins remain stuck in the middle. As the team sits today, they are just bad enough to watch the playoffs on TV, but not bad enough to be contenders for the first overall pick, longshot lottery win notwithstanding. Neither are the Penguins good enough to truly contend for anything more than a Round One beatdown.

The rebuild took a step forward, maybe, with three first-round picks and a couple of steals in the third round, but the core of the rebuild is still idling, stuck in the middle as the veterans remain firmly ensconced upon the roster like gargoyles standing guard.

In fact, Dubas traded none of the veterans, not even the expendable daily contributors such as Noel Acciari or Kevin Hayes. There was only smoke that the Penguins tried to move others, such as Rickard Rakell, and received interest in Bryan Rust.

Nothing got close enough that the bloodhounds at the national outlets, who are paid to break such stories, got a sniff. The only trade rumors were the persistently silly Sidney Crosby chatterings.

So the rebuild remains in process, but with nothing really on the horizon until 2027 or 2028.

The next opportunity to swipe some young talent will be Monday, when teams make their final decisions to qualify or non-tender their restricted free agents. Draft trades failed to materialize, and Mitch Marner seems to be headed to Vegas, though that potential Marner trade is under a cloud of accusations of tampering and pettiness. Teams have a much better idea regarding the values of their players, the costs to trade, and what they need.

Perhaps a few more things will shake loose, but Dubas openly admitted to trying to make the moves all have been waiting to see, and admitted that teams are not moving players as he may have hoped a few months ago. The salary cap spike means teams can afford to keep their players, especially the young ones coveted by the Penguins.

Now, Dubas most likely faces a choice: To take an ax to the dying oak that is his team and suffer the losing consequences for the next few years or more, or stand firm with the talented veterans who are keeping the team good enough to avoid the highest draft picks and continue stockpiling picks for the long rebuild.

As we observed earlier this month, the Penguins are stuck. With dwindling opportunities to shed the weight of the past that is slowing their progression toward the future, sooner or later, Dubas will need to make the choice.

Eventually, the law of averages will produce a better Penguins team if Dubas continues to run drafts like the 13-pick haul of 2025, but eventually could be a long time. And that’s where the Penguins stand.

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Funkstr
Funkstr
1 day ago

The predicted movement and lack thereof made the weekend seem disappointing. It’s great they added 13 prospects – but Dubas has to clear some of the dead weight if he wants the fans to have any incentive to pay attention this upcoming season. He’s not made any effort to improve anything right now. Watching younger players learn from their mistakes is more exciting – and beneficial – than just handing a lineup spot to guys with no upside – like Acciari. I’m hoping he can clear some roster spots – but it doesn’t even appear he’s trying. He can make… Read more »

Robert Shoemaker
Robert Shoemaker
1 day ago
Reply to  Funkstr

I am sure he is making an effort. The effort just hasn’t yielded any results yet. Trades require 2 teams. The penguins do not have a lot to offer in trades other than future draft picks and a bunch of 30+ yr olds. He will keep trying, but until Dubas learns the Jedi mind trick, I am not sure we will see anything happen.

Steve Wortman
Steve Wortman
1 day ago

I was not a fan of this format aside from the trade button. The announcers especially on day two had no clue of how to run a live event. They glossed over players profiles, talked over the draft announcement and one of them could only talk about his experiences.

That said it’s to soon to tell what kind of players we drafted, hopefully we get some trades July 1!

Jeff Young
Jeff Young
1 day ago
Reply to  Steve Wortman

Kudos to you for watching on day 2! 🙂 I was ready to turn off day 1 after our 12th pick but then they had to go and trade it. 🙂 I let PHN give me the information I need from the draft, trades, etc., all up. That said, outside Pittsburgh, July 1st might be interesting.

RJ
RJ
1 day ago
Reply to  Steve Wortman

LOVED the trade button!

Matthew Caddy
Matthew Caddy
1 day ago

The Draft certainly was discouraging. They didn’t dump any expensive veterans or even upgrade the roster by trading Rust or Rakell. I never thought they would end up drafting so many players, especially ones that realistically won’t ever make it to the NHL. And to reach on the early picks was definitely head scratching. Even the early picks may take 2-3 years to reach the NHL, and by then Sid might be done. Let’s hope more moves can be made in free agency, both in signings and trades.

Jeff Young
Jeff Young
1 day ago
Reply to  Matthew Caddy

In all seriousness, are you thinking they’ll actually be able to compete with 87 around (that is, within his timeframe)? I don’t but you seem level headed enough to explain your side to me. 🙂 I’d appreciate it, if you’re willing.

(In full disclosure, I think the organization would do best by moving 87 but I am 100% in agreement that it’s his decision. And, yep, I can believe both. 🙂 I just don’t think it’s a good idea to try and win just because 87 is still around.)

Steve
Steve
1 day ago
Reply to  Jeff Young

Agreed. They should move him for a haul.

Matthew Caddy
Matthew Caddy
1 day ago
Reply to  Jeff Young

My thinking is they develop a couple prospects (which is happening) and acquire some younger skill players (which hasn’t happened), adding appropriate spending on free agents (not necessarily to the cap). It would hopefully happen in time for one last run for Sid, but after the draft they just had, I now have my doubts. I think the best we can hope for now is for Sid to stick around and mentor the next generation and maybe get back to the playoffs, even if they don’t make any noise once they get there.

Rich81
Rich81
22 hours ago
Reply to  Jeff Young

The problem is they don’t have a top guy that’s a prospect. They have perhaps some good ones, but no difference makers. I guess KD tried, but couldn’t get it to happen to move up. 2 problems that occurred this past year-1) Islanders winning lottery did them 0 favors. Being in the 9 spot probably would have made moving up alittle more plausible or getting McQueen. 2) the late season surge absolutely killed them.

Kris Peterinelli
Kris Peterinelli
8 hours ago
Reply to  Matthew Caddy

Well they couldn’t trade Rust at the draft. At least no without his permission, so there is that.

Uros
Uros
1 day ago

We all knew it was going to be a long and bumpy ride. Just sit back and relax, while hoping some talent is actually talent. I sure hope we have those. But we will be in the limbo until Crosby retires. I’m saying Crosby because everyone else will retire by then and bad contracts will have expired. After that there will be another 2 years of directionless wandering, and then something might start. I’ll enjoy hockey either way and watch my Pens as I’ve done for decades.

Scott Becker
Scott Becker
1 day ago

Dan, thanks for the honesty. You sure didn’t sugar coat your prognosis for our ailing Penguins and I suppose that’s a good thing.
However, absent some completely unanticipated give away by one of the other 31 teams it looks like 2027-28 is the next season for great expectations.
In the meantime cheer up! There’s always the 2026 draft to look forward to. 😁

King Penguin
King Penguin
1 day ago

Very loud stick taps for the Flyboys, Isles and Winged Wheels, who did yeomen work while Duby slept the last few days. At least two and possibly all three are playoffs teams now. The Gibson, Martone and Zegras acquisitions look to be flat-out steals.

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Aaron
Aaron
9 hours ago
Reply to  King Penguin

Zegras doesn’t change anything for Philly, Martone fell into their lap. The Islanders capitalized on the Dobson trade but none of their prospects will be in the NHL next year.
The only one of these teams that even remotely has a shot at playoffs is the Wings. And they only have a shot at playoffs IF AND ONLY IF John Gibson stays healthy.

King Penguin
King Penguin
1 hour ago
Reply to  Aaron

Wanna bet that all three finish ahead of your heroes, brah?

Dean
Dean
1 day ago

The next few weeks will tell how serious that Dubious wants to compete in the short term. I looked at the draft differently. Unless the trades involved 2025 picks, I would expect them to take place in the next few weeks. Dubas and the other GMs had their hands too full to work on unrelated transactions. Who would want Accari or Hayes to give up a draft pick for them? The best thing Dubas could do is buyout Acciari and have another contract space for someone younger. Unfortunately, I think Dubas will just carry them one last year out of… Read more »

Cal
Cal
1 day ago
Reply to  Dean

Some great points Dean. I’m also on board with dealing Rust, Raks, and EK for solid youth and futures. Remember they want the Cup, not just to make the playoffs. The question is; If they keep them, are they a cup contender or a playoff team? I like to think the returns from good trading the a/m will give the team a better shot.

CentralPA
CentralPA
1 day ago

I believe Dubas and co are very intelligent humans, they just over use analytics. Reaching for players will show in 4yrs they either know more than all of us or its just moneyball and failure is inevitable. As for the veterans and waiting till trade deadline is there really a higher trade recoup?? Are you risking injury and a diminished return if any?? Crosby we all are thankful for your years of highlights & championships but as Fleury & all fans go pursue more Championships elsewhere in doing so with a trade you kick start the rebuild 10x.

Cal
Cal
1 day ago

Plenty to unpack from this weekend. Going into the draft I told myself, “Self, whomever they pick just be supportive and go with it even if they are not who I would choose”. But when they chose Kindel, a rush of disbelief and negativity came over me. It’s not so much the player itself but when they took him and who they left on the board! Before I could gather my wits, they traded with Filthy! I do like the Zonnon and Horcoff picks as as they are picks in the 20’s (where many thought Kindel would land). Crazy stuff… Read more »

Last edited 1 day ago by Cal
RJ
RJ
1 day ago

Having these picks contribute in 2-3 years would be fantastic but may be a long-shot. There are only 6 players drafted two years ago (2023 draft) who have played at least 10 NHL games. 3 years (2022) – 31 players with 10 or more games. 13 of the first 15 overall picks have played over 20 games. McGroarty (#14) has played only 8 but should now rapidly add to his total. Koivunen and Broz were both drafted in round two 4 years ago. Ville looks solid and Broz may be close to his NHL debut. I’d love it to be… Read more »

Jon Stowitzky
Jon Stowitzky
1 day ago

Why didn’t Dubas trade all of his shitty old players for young stars on other teams? 🤦‍♂️. Also this draft was probably the weakest in nearly a decade. Hopefully 3 or 4 can eventually make the jump to the show at some point. The only real winners seem to be the Isles the rest are in the same boat as the Pens. Put down the knife Dan, holy crap!

Breathe
Breathe
1 day ago

unsaid is the value of team building thru connection. Many of these picks show that. Muse, USHL, pair of Hounds, (Hayes bro), Picks partner, NTDP bros, Howe, #11, Dach. Wes did not seem to fully answer this question. Sensed a guarded conversation as fxn of history w TOR media. Time will tell if AI > management experience level. Can’t judge what all these players become for 1000 day’s.

Knobman
Knobman
7 hours ago
Reply to  Breathe

WTF?

Christopher Castine
Christopher Castine
1 day ago

Contenders are not built through the draft. Certainly not only through the draft. Florida had Barkov and Ekblad from years ago, and Lindell. Kulikov they drafted who bounced around before being reaqcuired….thats it. Everybody else was claimed, aqcuired and signed. Also, most predraft scouting lists and reporting is mostly awfully wrong and basically throwing darts at a certain point. Random examples – In 2015 Jake Guentzel was our not one of our top rated prospect. By 2017 he was already becoming a legend tying the rookie playoff goal scoring record. Harrison Brunicke was barely even mentioned to us last year… Read more »

Scott Becker
Scott Becker
1 day ago

Chris, The Barkov was 2nd overall draft pick Ekblad was 1st overall draft pick Lindell 12th overall pick Reinhart was drafted 2nd overall by Buffalo Bennett 4th overall by Calgary Tkachuk 6th overall by Calgary Etc. I admit I’m probably completely missing your point and shame on me but one way or the other Florida put together an all star team without relying on what I will refer to as let’s keep our fingers crossed prospects. My apologies for being obtuse but I sure hope Dubas has a plan that will differentiate our post 2004/2005 Crosby-Malkin draft history from the… Read more »

Chris
Chris
1 day ago
Reply to  Scott Becker

You did miss the point – Florida didn’t draft them. They signed them, traded for them, claimed them off waivers in some cases. They built a 3 time finalist 2 time winner through acquisitions and signings. Not drafting. Super simple point honestly. If you think this is “lets keep our fingers crossed” drafting that is grossly unfair. These guys are well regarded for their drafting ability and regardless of that they do a lot of work and diligence to make these selections and deserve the benefit of the doubt that they did their homework and who they drafted has as… Read more »

Scott Becker
Scott Becker
14 hours ago
Reply to  Chris

It is and thanks. (I will note that Barkov-Ekblad-Lindell were all Panthers own draftees with the first two evolving into Florida’s equivalent of Crosby-Letang.)
I respect your opinion but I dissent from the suggestion that I was “grossly” unfair. I save those moments for special occasions and the Penguins 2025 draft haul didn’t qualify for that level of unfairness.
Fingers crossed for 2025-26! 😉😉

David Fridfors
David Fridfors
1 day ago

As I was waiting for the cuckoo clock over here in ol’ Sweden to cuckoo, and with great anticipation for the draft to begin, it certainly left me with more than one feeling of anti-climax! Round one is the first. And the #1 pick of round 2… yeah 👍 I can’t believe the talent Kyle, Wes and co. left out there for others to have 🤔 In hockey, I think that’s called a giveaway!? In some circles, maybe an elbow to the head. At the very least, the pick(s) in the third round exited me, especially Charlie Trethewey! But… I’m… Read more »

Jay95
Jay95
1 day ago
Reply to  David Fridfors

I think too many of us look at who these scouting services rank and get certain names stuck in our head. But, honestly, even a lot of the individual scouts disagree on the board outside of the top couple of picks.

So, while someone like Kindel doesn’t might make us, and the talking heads, take a step back. There were probably 2-3 teams picking between 11 and 24 that were disappointed.

David Fridfors
David Fridfors
13 hours ago
Reply to  Jay95

That might, to some extent, be close to the truth!? Unless, you ask teams still on the board 11-24, and also having multiple picks. Like the Islanders and… oh, the Penguins!

Heck, we could’ve just swapped our 11-12 picks with the Isles at 16-17 (I know, no one does that), and probably end up with the same result, for both teams…
I think you know what I’m trying to say 😊

Last edited 13 hours ago by David Fridfors
Woytowich
Woytowich
1 day ago

I have no idea how these draft picks are going to work out. However, I am concerned that since Kyle Dubas took over the timelines he is working with to improve the team have been constantly changing.

This is his 3rd year and he has already burned through Crosby, Malkin and Letang’s legacy years, he has wasted a lot of time.

Kyle Dubas’ greatest strength is making a lot of noise(deals for the sake of making deals). He is also adept and dealing with the media and convincing them of his wheeling
and dealing!

Jay95
Jay95
1 day ago
Reply to  Woytowich

It wasn’t him that burned through the last couple of years. It was the mess that Hextall left the team in.

Woytowich
Woytowich
1 day ago
Reply to  Jay95

Really, Erik Karlsson, Ryan Graves, Argus Granlund.

Please let me know your favourite Kyle move.
Maybe, The Guentzel deal but not so far.

Jay95
Jay95
23 hours ago
Reply to  Woytowich

EK hasn’t meshed with the play style, but at the time that wasn’t a bad move. We got rid of guys who were over paid and looked to be declining, including Granlund, for a player coming off of a Norris trophy.

Graves? Yeah. That one was pretty iffy from the beginning. But, Hextall basically have away a ton of talent before Dubas ever got here.

Rich81
Rich81
22 hours ago
Reply to  Jay95

Not a fan of Hextall, but how much of that was him? It looked like 71 was good as gone until Sid went to visit.

Aaron
Aaron
8 hours ago
Reply to  Woytowich

Watching this team over the last 3 years, what timelines are you talking about? Malkin/Letang look like liabilities and should NOT be playing top minutes. Sid can’t carry the dead weight year in and year out. If anything, this team has gotten worse and anyone with a realistic view on this team can see that. All the fans trying to play Franchise Mode as if this is NHL26 and not reality. The simple fact is that the Pens don’t have/aren’t willing to give up (rightfully so) the assets that other GMs want. This team competed for decades and now is… Read more »

Last edited 8 hours ago by Aaron
King Penguin
King Penguin
1 day ago

Relax, people. Fats Madden says FSG is a great ownership group that likes to spend money and will turn this thing around in no time.

Rich81
Rich81
22 hours ago

This should be a blueprint for next season, hopefully Dubas will try and acquire another 1 or 2 1st rounders in 2026. Go after contenders who believe they wont be in the lottery. Use the 2-3 player’s you have now that can get those assets. Dont waiver Dubas.

King Penguin
King Penguin
20 hours ago

Crosby has a decision to make — does he want to win big again or does he want to skate out his final years with his BFFs in irrelevancy? If he wants to to win, then the rumors should be taken seriously.

Jim
Jim
11 hours ago

I was under the impression he had to wait until July 1’st to move Rust, as well as Karlsson more or less because of his signing bonus. Also got the impression he would hold on to Rakell until Marner signs, maybe Jason Robertson, to take advantage of teams who missed out. PS Veleno seems like the perfect signing option for KD, highly touted center that’s floundered, let him work along Sid.

JoJo
JoJo
9 hours ago

There is no hurry to trade Rust and Rakell, once the big free agents fish are out, teams that are missing out are gonne call Dubas asking for them.

Kris Peterinelli
Kris Peterinelli
8 hours ago

Anyone who thought this turnaround could happen in 2 years or less is delusional.

Scott Becker
Scott Becker
7 hours ago

Agreed Kris but who thought the wheels would come off so abruptly?! With the benefit of 20/20 hindsight (is there any other kind?) who knew Malkin, Letang and Karlsson would all hold hands while falling off a cliff? Totally unforeseen and Malkin was almost out the door while the other two guys were humming right along. Yet here we are just24 months later and swimming lower than whale 💩 . Now, with the benefit of all that wonderful hindsight and thus realizing your current predicament as a bottom feeder is this really the time one goes reaching or do you… Read more »

Bobby D
Bobby D
8 hours ago

It’s not about the number of prospects you draft, it’s about the quality.

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